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rcement actions. >> cenk: waste of time. get writ of the sec. get rid of them all. matt taibbi, contributing editor for rolling stone magazine. stay for the war war with jennifer granholm. i'm jennifer grandholm and tonight in "the war room," mitt romney finally connects with his beat. republican billionaires are a team unto themselves and now they have a mascot. romney again heeds the call of a billionaire and heads to a fund raiser here. a 65,000 square foot residence that offers an amazing view. so what is going to win this election money or medical. david axelrod has a thought on that subject, and he enters "the war room" now.
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♪ ♪ big, big spender ♪ ♪ big, big spender ♪ ♪ big, big spender ♪ ♪ big spend a little time with me ♪ >> that's a clip from the 1969 musical "sweet charity." more than four decades later that song could be the theme for mitt romney's campaign. today we learned that republican super pacs and outside groups, plan to spend, get this, a billion dollars! you heard me right. a billion dollars in the november elections, and by the
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way that is in addition to the $800 million that romney and the republican national committee have already committed to. let's break it down and show you what we are looking at. the koch brothers are going to kick in nearly $400 million to the super pac effort. the u.s. chamber of commerce about a hundred million dollars. romney romney's own pac and the rest of the money will come from smaller but no less influential groups. news of this broke just before my interview with david axelrod. >> there was a report this morning that the republican super pacs apart from romney and his own super pac intend to
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spend a billion dollars in this campaign, setting up shadow organizations, as well as running media so a handful of politicracs are going to try to buy this government. and the stakes of that are pretty profound. i'm obviously concerned about the implications for our race but we -- we braced ourselves and we have been talking about this for sometime for it, and it's a concern it's one of my big concerns, but for congressional candidates, it has got to be a nightmare. we saw in the last election 2010 in the last three weeks of those campaigns, super pacs swooped in and they spent, you know, huge amounts of money in
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the final three weeks to influence those congressional races. i think you can anticipate that in spades this year. >> so these are outside groups. the romney team said they were going to spend $2 million in buys in four states ohio iowa virginia, and north carolina. >> yes. >> those are states that president won last time. is romney now with the outside groups he may have a shot at states like that. >> obviously they are battleground states for a reason. they are a series of states that will determine this election. certainly those four are among them. that's not news particularly, and we expected them to battle for those. the thing that money can't do is buy you a good message or a good messenger. >> imagine that you were wearing a republican strategists hat,
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why would he align himself with donald trump. is it racial element there is it portraying the president as somebody alien to american values. what is going on there? >> i don't have the requisite degrees to climb into donald trump head or even his hair. [ laughter ] >> so, i don't know what motivates him. you know, but the question is why governor romney wouldn't repudiate those tactics and how on a day where donald trump makes such a -- a, frankly a fool of himself in -- in terms of his performance on -- on cnn -- >> a lot of people do not think it was an authentic certification -- >> how can you say that -- >> wolf many people do not think it was authentic. >> why would he stand with him and not have anything to say about it?
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>> right. >> and i think it's -- he said the other night, well, i'm not going to repudiate him because i need 55.5% of the vote. i think mitt romney will do what he thinks is good for mitt romney. and he wants donald trump's money, and will tolerate whatever donald trump has to say. >> can i talk about war roomy stuff here. >> sure. >> there was a poll that showed that the president is having trouble with white blue color worker males. >> let me just say we're not conceding any constituency and i think whatever the background, have reason to side with the president in this fight. the president's basic theory is
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that you build the economy from the middle out, not from the top down, and that is distinnily not what governor romney's theory is. if you can give money to millionaires and raise taxes on people making $40,000 a year that is not something that people should gravitate to. if you want to take student loan reforms and roll them back so we are giving money to bank and instead of students, that's not something that a family should embrace. so we're going to compete vigorously for all constituencies. but there are obviously constituencies where our numbers are high, and where mobilization is very, very important. and a lot of what you see around you, in a few minutes these desks will be full. and a lot of the effort is working with people around the country to bring those voters
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out. >> so you are facing all of these voter up presentation laws, how does the obama team deal with that? >> first of all we fight them to put them on the ballot so the voters can decide. and -- you know but -- in the main, what we're going to have to do is organize, identify our voters, fine our voters make sure they have what they need -- >> in light of what is going on on the other side can you do that? >> yes, i think that is an investment that we have to make. it does speak to the severity of the threat, because we don't have the money we spent on mobilization, and so that is a
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big concern, but -- but it has to be done. we are determined not to allow people all over this country, millions of voters to be disenfranchised by tricks and traps in the electoral system. i always find it astonishing, that at a time when all over the world you see people you know, marching, sometimes dying for that democratic rights that here in the cradle of democracy you have a republican party that is trying to discourage rather than encourage voting. it says something to me that we democrats believe that we would be well off if everyone voted, and their theory is they are better off if only some people vote. i think that doesn't speak to a confident party. >> so the romney message, obviously there is an anti bain capital, because that embodies
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the choices he has made. there is potentially strategy to go after massachusetts and his record there, and potentially there is a strategy to go after his embrace of the ryan budget -- >> there's a central premises to the romney campaign which is that he is a job creator and he has the secret sauce to put this economy into overdrive. there is nothing in his history that would suggest that that is the case. in business he was a wealth creator, but oftentimes that wealth was created at the expense of jobs and workers in several instances he took companies to bankruptcy profited off of those bankruptcies, and left the creditors and workers holding the bag, and he brought that same theory to state government. he was a government for at the same time you were a governor. >> that's right. >> he was 47th in the nation in job creation, and incomes
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declined when he was governor. he added $2.6 billion in debt left to his successor. it was a billion dollars structural deficit, so it's not surprising when you look at polling now he is 25 points behind in his home state. they know him well. they know him best. and whatever he is he is not a job creator, so if this campaign is predicated on that premise, i think that premise needs to be explored. >> there has been two sort of strands, one message early was that he has no core. and one emerges as a general election message, which is that he is not a job creator, is that he is -- he has elements of extremism, especially going back to policies that didn't work. do you worry that there are too many brushes painting him, or can those two things be
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reconciled? >> they add up to one thing, which is that he is a opportunist, and he does what is in his own self interest. that oftentimes is not in the interest of the people who he is supposed to serve. and that was true in massachusetts, where after two years of lackluster performance, he even turned around and started running for president, switched his positions in order to accommodate the republican right. so i don't think those two stories are in conflict. i think they are part of a whole. but ultimately what voter want to know is what does this mean for me? and the policies which governor romney is advocating would be good for him, and folks like him, but wouldn't be good for the economy or the middle class, the vision of an america where people who work hard can get
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ahead, and people can have confidence that their children will have a better future. and that's ultimately what i think will be at issue in this election. >> all right. last -- last question. >> yes. >> do you think in a second term, if the president is reelected, that he would like to see an effort across the country to overturn citizens united? >> there's no doubt that this -- the president has grave concerns about citizens united -- the citizens united ruling, and the implications of it, and we see it in practice now, and those concerns extend beyond his own election, but what are the implications for the future? he is the president of the united states, and he is going to be out spent dramatically in this race, but what is going to happen in the future if you don't have an incumbent president, you don't have the ability to raise that money, and you are up against -- >> do you think he will lead a
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constitutional amendment? >> he has said jennifer and i am -- i know how determined he is, that he will pursue every avenue including a constitutional amendment if that's the best path to try to do something about this. this is not just a threat to a candidate or a party. this is a threat to a democracy. if he don't take this on, our country will be effected in a really profound and negative way. >> a threat to democracy. and now to my point as we just heard, republicans super pacs are going to be spending a billion dollars this election on top of what governor romney and the republican national committee were already going to spend. billions of dollars from a handful of billionaires with one goal to buy an election, all thanks to the supreme court and citizens united. this is sick.
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it is a perversion of american democracy. and sadly the ads that the billionaires are buying work otherwise they wouldn't be investing. this is an investment. and billionaires certainly know a wise investment. so imagine the return they expect on their massive investment in buying a president. this just doesn't make me upset. it makes me and i hope it makes you, mad as hell. we cannot just sit back and take it, people. this is our country, this is a place where number can be president. the place with democracy is supposed to be the great equalizer, where your vote is worth just as much as donald trump, but this poisonous citizens united decision is killing our nation and everything it stands for. it is an invasive cancer that is spreading, and the very idea
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that is america is going to die unless we do something to stop it. so first, this is a call to action. get mad enough if you aren't already to register and vote and do it now. it is so easy to do. and our nation needs you. the more people who vote, the more the nation will be healed. go to gottovote.org and register right now. and second, we together have to push for a constitutional amendment to overturn citizens united. president obama wants to do it, but he's not going to be able to get two-thirds of the u.s. senate necessary to ratify an amendment. so he is going to have to take it to the people of the united states. we're going to need state-level constitutional conventions to take our nation back.
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it is a huge unprecedented, historic undertaking, but it is worth it. men and women have served and died to protect american democracy but that satisfy is going to be all for not if that democracy dies from the poison the supreme court has injected into our political organs. we must save the country and it starts with you. blan
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♪ >> i am not the catholic candidate for president. i am the democratic party's candidate for president, who happens always to be a catholic. i do not speak for my church on public matters, nor does the church speak for me. whatever issue comes before me as president should i be elected
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on birth control, divorce, cent forship or gambling i will make my decision in accordance with these views, in accordance with what my conscious tells me to do in the national interest. and no power or threat of punishment could cause me to decide otherwise. >> that's an except from john f. kennedy's religion speech in 1960. that address to assure voters he would not be influenced by the catholic church. mitt romney is a mormon, and frankly considered to be a cult by some evangelicals. he hasn't had to deliver a big religious speech. and i'm wondering is it a sign
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of progress. here to discuss that is douglas brinkley. welcome inside "the war room." >> thank you for having me. appreciate it governor. >> yeah, i'm glad to have you here, you book is fantastic. i would like to know from an historian is it is sign of progress, or do you think romney may have to give the religion speech? >> he is going to have to give that speech, but i think it is a sign of progress because we used to have a no-nothing party in the united states that was anti-catholic, and anti-mormon, and two of our best u.s. senator, tom udoll and mark udoll are active in their church and probably our best
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conservationalists. i think he'll have to answer questions, but i don't think it will be a determining factor in in the election. >> as a presidential historian, what past race does this year's race remind you most of? >> 2000 and 2004. it's going to be nail biting close, because we still have this blue/red divide and we're still fighting over -- the parties are fighting over a handful of the same swing states. 2008 was an unusual election because there was iraq war fatigue, president bush's dysfunction during katrina, and the economy crashing right before the election, allowed president obama to win indiana, and north carolina and other states. this will be tighter this time. it's a little more like 2000
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2004. so i think for the democrats they just have to get out the vote in these places and handful of other states. >> that's going to be a big challenge especially because of the funds on both sides, but as we just heard especially the republican side. back in the day there were three nightly news shows and walter cronkite was king. >> it was unbelievable how important walter cronkite was. i was able to write the book because all of his papers have opened in the university of austin, but cronkite became the most trusted man in america. after a headline news cronkite would put on civil rights and
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so he started following martin luther king. and many people don't realize that cronkite is the one that really helped found earth day. cronkite was so moved as was steve jobs by the photos of planet earth just floating there, that he thought he needed to save the planet and put pressure on to help create really what became the environmental protection agency, and sent camera crews to cover earth day. he worked might illy hard to keep places like california and cape hatterus and other areas clean. >> it turns out that he was actually quite liberal, but he
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kept it quiet. how was he able to keep it quiet? >> well, he was very liberal. but he tries to do -- be balanced in doing the nightly news broadcast. it broke for him in vietnam when he went there toured in 69 after the vietnam war stalemate and joined the dove side. he also encouraged bobby kennedy to run for president as the anti-war candidate. but mainly -- the part that is really interesting, and your talk about citizens united reminded me of it. he gave a famous speech in 1988 in roseland in new york for barbara jordan a congressman in texas, and he said shout it out, be a liberal be proud. he was very concerned that
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liberals were seen knot to be bold enough. this is when michael duecaucus lost. from that point he was very left center on everything. he was very pro roe v wade pro environmental protection believed might illy in the united nations. >> i find that so fascinating apart from the liberal streak what else about cronkite do you think would most surprise our viewers? >> during world war ii he was the united press reporter, and he was there for all of these things, and because he embedded with our air force during world
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war ii he has a beat nobody cared about during the 50s, cape canaveral. and cronkite's love of space, and the way he helped broadcast those moments that lead to going to the moon with nasa, and, you know, it was just in his blood and his library was filled with everything from space. he loved arthur c clark and all of this, and that's when moments of the space program shows when people get behind the american government and the belief that the government can do things for them, and cronkite was part of all of that. and then one quick thing, how anti-war cronkite became. he was deeply against the iraq war of george w. bush.
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in fact in his 80s he started writing a column where he would whack george w. bush week after week. >> unbelievable stuff. doug, thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room." that's historian and author douglas brinkley and his book "cronkite." up next charlotte mayor, anthony foxx joins us inside "the war room." it's only on current tv.
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convention because charlotte's hotels are not unionized. in a letter to dnc chair, debbie wasserman schultz, mark ayers wrote: and it's not just that union are upset, anti-wall street protesters got a permit to protest outside of the banc of america stadium, and there is the issue of gay marriage, gay activists have suggested that the convention should be moved all together. the dnc says it has no intention to do so. from charlotte to discuss the competing issues of the conversion. the mar your of charlotte who
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has the fourth fastest-growing economy in the nation last year. major thank you for joining us inside "the war room." >> governor, it is great to be there. great. how concerned are you that some unions are not on board? >> well, look, we would love to have everyone who wants to be part of this great convention to be as enthusiastic as i am about the convention, but obviously every convention has its own dynamic with it, and unfortunately that's the dynamic we have here. but it is going to be a great convention. it will be an opportunity to leave here with a great spirit of -- of a good outcome for the president in this election season. >> so -- but if you have major protests, what are the logistical problems that they could cause for the convention? >> well, as any convention
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experiences, you are going to have demonstration activity. you have everyone who has a political interest on the planet descending on both con vennings the extreme right, and the extreme left and all groups in the middle. so as a city you work with all levels of law enforcement to ensure two things. the first is for people that want to exercise their first amendment rights have the ability to demonstrate and demonstrate effectively, and second protect the safety of the convention goers and the convention itself. i think we'll have a great convention, and it will allow people to air their thoughts and opinions just like americans always want to do. >> you are a great spokesperson. convention planners expect to receive, i think only 4 million from unions which is less than half of what they contributed in
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2008. are you concerned about unions from a fund-raising perspective? >> you know. of course i would love to have the help with this convention and many are finding ways to be helpful with the convention but i'm also very encouraged by the spirit of interest and enthusiasm from individuals across the country who are want to make sure this is a great convention. there will not be corporate or pac or lobbyist funding for this convention, so we're creating a national campaign and the enthusiasm has been tremendous. >> well charlotte was picked for its vibrant economy. what is the biggest reason for that? >> you know, i think one of the
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big reasons for that is in charlotte is the spirit of cooperation between the public and the private sectors. charlotte has come a long way, even over the last 30 or 40 years. there was a period of time of time when you could drive down the street open the doors and not hit anything. and we have been able to grow our city over the last 40 years or so, largely because our economies and private sectors have worked together to try to grow our economy. >> you are a great spokesperson and i'm sure it will be a terrific convention pro tests and all. thanks for joining us inside "the war room." coming up it is time to separate the weather from the chaff. duf sundheim and christine pelosi are up next. don't go away.
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♪ on the campaign front, mitt romney is spending his first day as the official republican nominee, raising money out of the public eye. fox news aired an interview from the weekend and romney said voters will not overlook him because of his wealth. take a listen. >> there is not a nation that divides people based upon whether they have been successful or not. we don't say this person won the
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lottery, and therefore they can't understand me. we instead look at people and celebrate their success and achievement, and look for people who have the skills we think, will make our lives better. >> fair point. now check out where romney will be raising money tonight in the bay area. the 64,000 square foot chateau caroland. this is taking fund-raising to a whole new level, which is of course, to take a close look of romney's image problem as a result of that is and the california republican party during arnold schwarzenegger's governorship. welcome back to you both. let me start with you, duf, and let he start on the more billionaire's super pac's stuff. doesn't it -- i know republicans
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have a huge amount more, but still doesn't it make you uncomfortable? >> yes, but the hype -- hypocrisy is when the democrats had more where was the outrage there? that's what bothers me. yes, it trowels me. and i thought your piece was very effective. we do have to work to get the average voice back into this. >> you would len your voice to this? >> absolutely. but obama started this thing. it's think hypocrisy of this. >> but you are talking about billionaires on the republican side who already said they are going to spend a total of a billion dollars. and now you are a cubs fan so let me show you this this is a
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world series san francisco giants team, and if this is as close as the cub fan is ever going to get to a world series ring. >> come on. >> i don't have a ring, yeah. >> go tigers. that's what i'm saying. would you have selected a chateau for a fund raiser? >> i would not -- >> so your mom doesn't go to those types -- >> oh, my god not that chateau, are you kidding? the question is what are you going to do with the money? if you are going to go into a wealthy home and say -- >> and donald trump does this for you in las vegas. >> that's a whole different topic. but why are they raising non-ny for barack obama? because he says this is what i'm
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going to do to bring the economy back. what they are really saying is give them a free land laissez-faire economics. that's what caused the meltdown in 2008. i don't have a problem as long as they know i'm going to raise their taxes and make them do their fair share for this country. >> and obama gets all of this money to go into these green energy programs that's where we're going nowhere. >> today in "usa today," your % mother challenged the republicans to make a deal on the bush tax cuts. and she was willing to raise the tax levels. some democrats were really surprised by that. what is the back story?
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>> jobs in america are being created the most by small businesses. so let's say you own a small television or radio station, you may be pulling in a million dollars, your salary is going to be a fraction of that. you have a law firm you may be bringing in a million dollars, that's not necessarily your salary. >> i'm having to fan myself. [ laughter ] >> okay. christine and duf are going to stay right where they are. we'll have much more after the break including the women in the election. back with that and much more only in "the war room" and only on current tv. ♪ home of the brave. ♪ ♪ it's where fear goes unwelcomed... ♪ ♪ and certain men...
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♪ >> mitt romney is making major
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strides among women, particularly republicans. female supporters for romney jumping a full 13 points last week. while president obama's fell from 58 to 51%. romney's surge among women seems to have helped him overall. the romney camp shouldn't be celebrating too much, though because that 35% was an historic low for a presidential candidate. back with me now is democratic party women's and duf sundheim, who chaired the california republican party during arnold schwarzenegger's governorship. let me start with you, christine. are you concerned that he is eating into president obama's -- that romney's women's supporters are eating into president obamas? >> i think the republican women have come home --
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>> 80% -- is what republican women now support romney. >> and i imagine the other 20% will take another look too now that he is the nominee. but here is the thing. when you talk about women in politics. we are interested in jobs, small business opportunities and saying who does he put around himself. who is he going to put around him. i think -- i think that -- if mitt romney really went all out and picked a woman it would be a very bold move a strong move, and a way to support that vote. women will judge the candidates around whether or not they can live around the pocketbook issues. and to the extent that romney supports seem to be gleefully
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engaged on this attack on on planned parenthood, i think that will be a problem. >> take a listen to this. >> when mitt romney says -- >> planned parenthood, we're going to get rid of that. >> romney is saying he'll deny women the birth control and screening issues they have a right to. he is say he will deny the right for women to have their own health care positions, and romney is putting your paycheck at risk. planned parenthood is responsible for the contend of this advertising. because mitt romney is out of touch with women. >> what do you make of planned parenthood getting involved politically. >> i think it's amazing and then they put out an ad.
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>> it's a pac. >> yeah, right. >> why do they call it planned parenthood? >> political action committee. >> yeah, it's political. it has always been political, and now they are just acknowledging what everybody knew. >> it's a personal choice, though, and the personal choice is something that is supported by a number of women including republican women. >> i support cancer screenings, by the way. >> thank you. >> but ann romney hired a press person for herself. and i'm curious to know whether you think this signals a much bigger role for her? >> yes, i think you will see both michelle and ann out there. both of them are excellent surrogates for their husbands.
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>> i think so too. >> another agreeing point. [ laughter ] >> do you think that condy rice is even in the vetting pool? >> i think that she has taken herself out of the pool and if you look at the title of her book, i think they would love to have her but she has shown no interest in stepping forward. >> who do you think it is going to be? >> christy. >> i think portman. >> me too. >> why chris christie. >> new jersey and pennsylvania. the blue collar just like biden is attractive to the blue collar worker. >> is he? i don't know. anyway i appreciate your opinion. we have to end on a
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disagreement. and up next brett ehrlich has waited patiently for this moment. >> yesterday was supposed to be romney's big day, but instead we are talking about an interview between a man named after a wild animal, and a man who insists on wearing a wild animal on top of his head. >>read my lips. no new taxes. >>this bill clinton commercial marked a new milestone in the "flip-flop" tv ads. now a days with video tapes, you can go and find a piece of footage of them saying one thing and then find another piece of footage of them contradicting themselves. >>we're never ever going to be able to totally control immigration. i promise you we can end illegal immigration. >>and, sometimes the candidate does the work for the commercial producers. >>i actually did vote for the $87 billion before i voted against it. >>he bragged about voting for
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nomination, and second no one can keep donald trump from stealing the spotlight and brett has a lesson for mitt, the donald and all of us. so shhhh, brett's talking now. >> with a win in texas, mitt romney finally clenched the republican nomination. so how did the donald do it through a pattened blend of nonsense you too can learn at the professor trump school of action. you can insist a birth certificate is fake. >> a lot of people do not think it was an ott -- authenticate. there are many people that don't agree with that birth certificate, and many people put
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those announcements in. it was something that was done by many people. >> how many is many? well, it's not zero and it's probably not one, and most importantly, it is not a big enough number that i feel comfortable telling you, and what do the grads do? >> give me a name -- >> there are many people -- i don't name names. >> why because if you name a name that means someone with that name has to exist, and they probably don't. and when all else fails what do you do? you just start insulting the host. >> you would probably get better ratings than you are getting which are pretty small. >> that's right. hit them low, because people have hit you low, saying you were wearing a dead muppet on your head. stop yelling at me.
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